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Artwork Redraws

Postby stefanol » October 21st, 2009, 7:13 pm

Let's make this thread official artwork redraw thread. I will post here with every change to the images. As I stated multiple times, we will be slowly changing all artworks. Many of you will dislike it at the beginning (being used to the previous art), some of you will dislike it overall (which may also happen - everyone have their own taste). Aragornbird did a great job with his Pokemon images, which are used as the old Virtuadopt base, and sometimes it will be hard to make the redraw overall better, liked by everyone. The old art won't return definitely, but there is small possibility the new artwortks will receive small changes, or under certain circumstances - redrawn completely, again. Feel free to express your opinion, but if this thread will turn into complain fest (just because you are used to the old art), I will remove it. Constructive criticism is welcome.


LAST REDRAWS:



- #83 Farfetch'd

- #386 Deoxys



- #63 Abra
- #64 Kadabra
- #63 Alakazam
- #66 Machop
- #67 Machoke
- #68 Machamp
- #69 Bellsprout
- #70 Weepinbell
- #71 Victreebel
- #72 Tentacool
- #73 Tentacruel
- #74 Geodude
- #75 Graveler
- #76 Golem
- #80 Slowbro
- #82 Magneton

- #266 Silcoon
- #268 Cascoon

- #588 Karrablast
- #625 Bisharp



-#54 Psyduck
-#55 Golduck
-#56 Mankey
-#57 Primeape
-#58 Growlithe
-#59 Arcanine
-#60 Poliwag
-#61 Poliwhirl
-#62 Poliwrath
-#95 Onix
-#100 Voltorb
-#101 Electrode

-#186 Politoed



-#43 Parasect
-#48 Venonat
-#49 Venomoth
-#50 Diglett
-#51 Dugtrio



-#43 Oddish
-#44 Gloom
-#45 Vileplume

-#182 Bellossom



-#4 Charmander
-#10 Caterpie
-#20 Raticate
-#21 Spearow
-#22 Fearow
-#22 Arbok
-#27 Sandshrew
-#30 Nidorina
-#31 Nidoqueen
-#33 Nidorino
-#34 Nidoking
-#35 Clefairy
-#36 Clefable
-#37 Vulpix
-#38 Ninetales
-#39 Jigglypuff
-#40 Wigglytuff
-#41 Zubat
-#84 Doduo
-#85 Dodrio
-#92 Gastly
-#93 Haunter
-#94 Gengar

-#183 Marill
-#184 Azumarill
-#219 Magcargo
-#234 Stantler



-#3 Venusaur
-#6 Charizard
-#9 Blastoise
-#16 Pidgey
-#17 Pidgeotto
-#18 Pidgeot
-#23 Ekans
-#26 Raichu

-#163 Hoothoot
-#209 Snubbull
-#227 Skarmory
-#249 Lugia
-#250 Ho-oh
-#251 Celebi

-#253 Grovyle
-#254 Sceptile
-#256 Combusken
-#257 Blaziken
-#259 Marshtomp
-#260 Swampert
-#261 Poochyena
-#264 Linoone
-#269 Dustox
-#272 Ludicolo
-#274 Nuzleaf
-#275 Shiftry
-#277 Swellow
-#279 Pelipper
-#287 Slakoth
-#288 Vigoroth
-#289 Slaking
-#291 Ninjask
-#292 Shedinja
-#295 Exploud
-#297 Hariyama
-#299 Nosepass
-#300 Skitty
-#306 Aggron
-#308 Medicham
-#323 Camerupt
-#326 Grumpig
-#329 Vibrava
-#330 Flygon
-#332 Cacturne
-#335 Zangoose
-#340 Whiscash
-#342 Crawdaunt
-#344 Claydol
-#346 Cradily
-#348 Armaldo
-#349 Feebas
-#350 Milotic
-#356 Dusclops
-#362 Glalie
-#365 Walrein
-#367 Huntail
-#368 Gorebyss
-#375 Metang
-#376 Metagross
-#377 Regirock
-#378 Regice
-#379 Registeel
-#382 Kyogre
-#383 Groudon
-#384 Rayquaza
-#385 Jirachi
-#386 Deoxys



-#28 Sandslash

-#263 Zigzagoon
-#265 Wurmple
-#281 Kirlia
-#300 Skitty
-#301 Delcatty
-#310 Manectric
-#315 Roselia
-#317 Swalot
-#319 Sharpedo
-#324 Torkoal
-#337 Lunatone
-#338 Solrock
-#358 Chimecho
-#359 Absol
-#363 Spheal
-#369 Relicanth
-#373 Salamence
-#380 Latias
-#381 Latios



-#327 Spinda
-#352 Kecleon



-#312 Minun
-#359 Absol
-#354 Banette
-#309 Electrike
-#314 Illumise
-#371 Bagon
-#267 Beautifly
-#357 Tropius
-#313 Volbeat
-#321 Wailord



-#29 Nidoran F
-#32 Nidoran M
-#86 Seel
-#87 Dewgong
-#147 Dratini



-#25 Pikachu
-#46 Paras
-#79 Slowpoke
-#118 Goldeen



-#1 Bulbasaur
-#4 Charmander
-#77 Ponyta
-#78 Rapidash



-#7 Squirtle
-#158 Totodile



-#53 Persian
-#81 Magnemite
-#150 Mewtwo
-#151 Mew

-#155 Cyndaquil
-#152 Chikorita



- #2 Ivysaur
- #5 Charmeleon
- #8 Wartortle
- #10 Caterpie
- #11 Metapod
- #12 Butterfree
- #13 Weedle
- #14 Kakuna
- #15 Beedrill
- #19 Rattata
- #151 Mew

- #304 Aron
- #340 Whiscash
- #349 Feebas
- #357 Tropius
- #368 Gorebyss

- #409 Rampardos
- #411 Bastiodon
- #444 Gabite
- #445 Garchomp
- #453 Croagunk
- #454 Toxicroak
- #455 Carnivine
- #457 Lumineon
- #458 Mantyke
- #469 Yanmega
- #472 Gliscor
- #477 Dusknoir
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Setofant » October 21st, 2009, 7:22 pm

I think the new arts are okay, I expected worse.
(Not that I don't like Nautilus' style, it's just, the old art was so good it couldn't be done any better.)
Especially Mewtu looks really cool and Cyndaquil is sweet.

But... I don't like Mew at all.
It's fat and chumpy and... I dunno. v.v
I'm sorry, I don't think I'll get used to this for a long long time.

But overall - good work.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Kamui » October 21st, 2009, 7:26 pm

wow^^...Nautilus has her stile and I like it..here MY opinion to the new artworks:

-#81 Magnemite: very nice..I love it...it has a really big eye but who cares^^
-#151 Mew: I don't like the feet and ears..I have to get used to it^^
-#150 Mewtwo: great body and I like that it prepares an attack but the head seams...weird and the neck is missing xD (on the big artwork the head looks perfect)
-#155 Cyndaquil: very cute :D...I liked the flames but the new artwork without flames is ok too
-#53 Persian: nice as well^^...but the pads are a too big
-#152 Chikorita: my favourite of the new artworks^^...perfect but the colors should be more intensive

All in all Nautilus did a great job and I hope to see more soon ;)
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Neo » October 21st, 2009, 7:30 pm

I like the new artworks
good work :)
I just miss cyndaquil'S flames^^
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby catboy » October 21st, 2009, 7:44 pm

I miss Cyndaquil's flames too. And the new Mew... sorry, but it's a disaster. I don't really feel like I want to win one anymore. :cry:

I can live with the others, but I don't really feel any improvement over the old ones. Why do you have to change them anyway? I always go for: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby SirAster » October 21st, 2009, 7:44 pm

Wow. Looks good. Some will take a bit getting used to as people continue to state, but I like some of the things that make them look odd. It really does set them apart from other styles.


Magnemite: Really like it. Even with the large eye. A fierce look to it would be interesting as well.

Mew: Not too bad. Reminds me of Espeon though. Bad thing, good thing... not sure.

Mewtwo: I like the attack bit of it. I can see why some would complain about the head, but it's really just the angle and such. It's fine.

Cyndaquil: Awesome. Something just sitting there relaxing/being cute, not trying to show off it's power or anything.

Persian: Agree with Kamui on this one :lol:

Chikorita: Something about it's leaf seems slightly off, but that's just something to get used to probably.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby stefanol » October 21st, 2009, 7:46 pm

The only reason we are changing them, is because we don't own them - when I was starting this place up, I used artworks of aragornbird, under his agreement. Homever, it's like "borrowing" - I can use them, but I'd rather much have something of my own.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby catboy » October 21st, 2009, 8:07 pm

Ah, I see. I was suspecting it had something to do with some od the old pictures being actually redrawn from old Pokémon TC's.

It's too bad since it means some of my favourite artworks here will have to go too...

Well, I really hope you can do something about Mew! :?
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby BlueSkyGirl » October 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm

I love the Chikorita <3!
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Setofant » October 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm

Yep... I don't mind the others, but Mew is desastrous, I'm sorry.

Pleeease, can you do something about it?
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby catboy » October 21st, 2009, 8:11 pm

Hope my poor Nidoran stays like this as long as possible. I just love the nasty glance of it! 8-)
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby stefanol » October 21st, 2009, 8:11 pm

I actually like it :) Matter of taste, I guess.

Doing something about it means, that it would get redrawn completely again, and that doesn't mean it will look better for you in the next form... It is possible, but I don't confirm anything.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Estcheis » October 21st, 2009, 8:16 pm

I really appreciate the change of the artworks and I'm happy to see that VA gains some individuality now ;)
And I also like the new mew! ^_^
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Setofant » October 21st, 2009, 8:18 pm

What about a compromise?
We can ask her to redraw Mew in a different version and if we don't like it we are not allowed to complain that time.
It'll stay like that.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Yoite » October 21st, 2009, 8:19 pm

Well, I just would like to public my opinion about the new Artworks.
First of all I have to say that I'm not a fan of Nautilus style and works. I have no worry against the user or anything else. I just don't like the style - personal position.

-#81 Magnemite
I think it is ok. Its pose is suspenseful and shows that Nautilus know how to play to the gallery.
But, well, Magnemite has a really BIG eye. And seriously I liked the previous artwork more.

-#151 Mew
Sorry, but one word: horrible! It looks really fat and in no way cute how it should. The choosen color is fine, I guess. It's mild and gentle - I really like no-gaudy colors :)

-#150 Mewtwo
The first thing I thought was "OMG! What the heck has happen? Where is my beloved Mewtwo?"
I really, really like the idea to draw Mewtwo during attaking, but the propotion are not harmonious! His left arm is so long while his right arm is nearly not shown. and that can't be 'cause the energy-ball can't hide his right arm with logically thinking.

-#155 Cyndaquil
I like it. Really! I think it is cute and looks like Cyndaquil. But I guess... it looks naked?!
May it is possible to add flames.

-#53 Persian
Well... It looks not too bad... But I like the previous image more like Magnemite. Its forepaws are in comparrison with its hindpaws too big. And his ears are also really large. And they are not roundly ò_o

-#152 Chikorita
I like it :)
It's cute and fullfills my anticipations

Result:
Most of them are not really looking like Pokemon. Yeah, we know that they should be some, but Arkeis' works looked more like Pokemon. Nevertheless Nautilus gave her best (I hope so).
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Estcheis » October 21st, 2009, 8:23 pm

Isn't it just a matter of familiarization? Every one was complaining about the new Eevee artwork, now nobody mentions that anymore!
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby stefanol » October 21st, 2009, 8:26 pm

Changes usually cause a lot of comments... Noone says now that the GTS exists, because well... it exists ;)
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby Yoite » October 21st, 2009, 8:30 pm

Estcheis wrote:Isn't it just a matter of familiarization? Every one was complaining about the new Eevee artwork, now nobody mentions that anymore!

You're kinda right. We acclimatize to them by-and-by.
I like all new versions of eevee more, but that doesn't matter if I think that the images are compatibly with they should show.
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby catboy » October 21st, 2009, 9:34 pm

Estcheis wrote:Isn't it just a matter of familiarization? Every one was complaining about the new Eevee artwork, now nobody mentions that anymore!


Maybe because everybody already DID complain about it? ;)

I don't like the new Jolteon for instance, simply because i don't want to see its backside! I don't know what was the intention of that but it's my favourite eevolution and I want to see its face, not its behind! :oops:
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Re: Artwork Redraws

Postby AnnieGYG » October 21st, 2009, 9:41 pm

I love the Magnemite and Persian, not keen on the Cyndaquil, it looks like a drowned rat without flames. Lovely drawn but looks bald.

Chikoritas lovely apart from the miserable looking expression on it's face, just a tweak of the mouth would help there I always had Chikorita as cute.

Mew, hmm, could do with a touch of harshening to not look so over-chubby and cute.

Mew2 looks amazing!
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